I've just seen that in Halo's new tv series, Steve Downes isn't going to voice master chief. I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. Her 7 yr old daughter was already dead, her other 2 children were in critical condition. But I will answer the points you raised about the blog. Some cases are so one sided that you feel like exposing or at least, discussing the other side. I research cases that in my opinion, were poorly tried. Therefore, those jagged bones were floating in a cloth wrap, merely resting in a cloth sling. She did it. If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? It seems like Steve and Diane were meant to be together. Needless to say, you seem to have a problem with the American justice systemnot each individual case. Moreover, he apparently told her that he did not want children and this statement alone would seal Dianes fate. I do not post rude comments. 20 female celebrities with black hair to follow in 2023, 10 most famous QVC hosts who were fired or left the channel. And thats fair enough. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. Christie was the primary witness in the case against her mother. Diane, 18, had run away from home to do so. And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. Christie is a married woman and gave birth in 2005. It appeared rigged: Rigged? Be the first to get hottest news from our Editor-in-Chief, Check your email and confirm your subscription. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying. http://www.dianedowns.com/Dr.%20Jamison%20affidavit.pdf. I see that Downs had a parole hearing in late 2020 but I cant see the outcome. Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. The crucial point is that she is so void of emotion. There was never a real motive for the crime even if the State insisted that Diane wanted to be free to pursue her love interest; using her journals to support theirclaim. ABC MOVIE FOR TV Small Sacrifices 1989 Farrah Fawcett, Ryan ONeal. Aint no one gonna tarnish my guys lol. I talked about her still being locked up, all these years later, because I really want to know is it because we believe she will commit more crimes or is it because we need more revenge? The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. Right away, the police asked her to go back to the crime scene even thoughshe did not want to leave her children behind. Diane ran away from her husband many times between 1976 and 1977, but with nowhere to go except her parents house, she would come back. Diane and her family fought for them but were blocked from day one. Great question. Then they just got shut out. And that is why Diane chose to murder her children to regain his affection. more on crime HEARTBREAKING FIND The Office star's sister-in-law found dead 11 days after going missing 'DISGUSTING' It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. Check your inbox to be the first to know the hottest news. That didnt seem right so we wrote a letter to Mr Hugi with a request for visitation rights. He gave temporary custody to Dr. Wilhite. Late Tom Billings had been the first who openly questioned Diane Downs guilt. As for where he is now, we'll be honest, we're not completely sure. Hi Nanette, it is not a matter of being gullible. A reader told me that I should have a website with all the comments. I mean if a guy admits to killing children over and over, shouldnt we pay attention to that? There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial. Go to the hate groups for that. It was never a slam dunk. I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. Wow does he ever look different than how they portrayed him in the TV movie. What matters to me is that her rights were trampled during her trial. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. Christie became the star witness against her mother and who could resist such a touching testimony? According to various sources, Steve chose to separate from his wife after discovering that Stephen Daniel, their third child, was the product of her wife's relationship with a colleague. This is what Mrs Downs had to say about the situation. The woman shot her children. So Mark, where are you from? Without her daughters testimony and the lies about the gun, they could not have found her guilty in a fair trial. Diane Downs' ex husband, Steve Downs, lost a lot in May 1983 when his ex wife shot their three children, following their divorce in 1980. What about the fact that they never found the gun? If it doesnt matter to you, it should. From what we know about Becky, she had chosen a difficult path and Diane was trying to warn her. A demonstration in court strongly suggested that the shooter had to be left-handed to have been able to shoot in the car at the right angle. why didn t steve downs get custody - Central Texas Gardening Blog I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. Nowadays, this insanity would never be tolerated. But Diane was not the one dragging Knick out of Charlenes bed every morning intent on making or breaking his relationship with another woman. So either way, it would not be so far fetched that someone said he was the shooter.A little investigation would not hurt. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Her older two children have remained out of the public eye. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. Steve Howey, Sarah Shahi's Relationship Timeline: Photos This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. Whatever mental illness she has, has gotten worse with each hearing. How about dads side of the family? Dianes story does not contradict that. I agree in both cases they were high profile cases. And she should be allowed parole! The detective said if Diane would just testify against Steve Downs, she and her children could go home and try to put their lives back together. Judges are subject to certain ethical standards and have a duty to be impartial. They were not truth seekers and enjoyed a nice burning at the stake instead. The whole family were co-conspirators and involved in the crime? Steve was among the few individuals who saw Elizabeth Diane as a beautiful young lady rather than an outsider. Unfortunately, Danny Downs was permanently paralyzed from the waist down because of a bullet injury in his back. Susan, I dont know if there ever was a lawsuit against Ann Rule from the Fredericksons family. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. Hello. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. Are her parents still living (I know they were a few years ago)? I was always really bothered by that. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. The cops admitted that they never investigated the tips about a bushy haired stranger. She folded it neatly around her arm. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. Not an easy situation for him as I would imagine. He then left !his second wife, Charlene, to cohabitate with (and propose marriage to) Diane. PAY ATTENTION: Click 'See First' under 'Follow' Tab to see Tuko.co.ke news on your FB Feed, Get the news that matters from one of the leading news sites in Kenya, Kenyans Share Hilarious Memes, Frustrations as KPLC Announces Nationwide Power Blackout, Xtian Dela's Mum Cries Bitterly As She Begs Son to Come Home, Says She's Not Seen Him in 4 Years, Linet Toto's Dowry: 7 Delectable Photos from MP's Negotiation Ceremony, Couple Lose KSh 3.4m on Their Wedding After Guests Don't Show Up: "So Heartbroken", Little Girl Begs Man on the Road for Money, Video Surprises Many, David and Rebecca Muir wedding, relationship, and family, Who is Lil Meech's mom? And by the way, I wrote the blogs about Rule way before she passed. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? The previous video you sent me shows a Jagger pretty animated and involved in the defense of his client. There is only one major problem with your scenario. He freely admitted HE decided to ask for a divorce on his birthday without consulting Diane, who was out of town Thank you for presenting a side of the story & case apart from the usual narrative. How interesting. ..a little over year before the shooting had a surrogate babypregnancy and giving the baby awayumits donnoits the gal already had a fragile mentality.may not have been the best idea. It's not even known if he still resides in Arizona, where he used to live with Diane and their three kids. He was one of the few people who saw Diane, not as the outsider, but as a beautiful woman who was anxious to assert her independence. The trial was a whole miscarriage, that seems undeniable. So it was a relentless game totry to reel her in. Once again, Diane said a lot of things. I ndicted money launderer and noted coup enthusiast Steve Bannon has refused to sit for a deposition in front of the January 6 Select Committee. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial So, why didn't Steve Downs get custody? And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. Its a dangerous proposition when a lack of due process becomes acceptable because they know she is guilty. In addition to treating brain cancer, he works toward health equity. Oh my. Mr. Jagger failed to challenge that competency. Page 40 of Case History. I followed the trial. Surprisingly, Fred Hugi actually looks quite different. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. Why arent you debating the faulty ballistics, and the fact that the gun they affirmed was used in the commission of the crime was not the right one? Fitness fanatic, 27, broke her spine lifting weights but didn't realise until she woke up the next morning unable to move - and why her terrifying injury should be a warning to all gym-goers So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. Every single one. Now she claims she was dating an FBI agent at the time, was holding some top secret pictures for him, and she was on the road to meet someone to pass them off, at the instruction of her FBI boyfriend. This is a scenario pretty hard to believe, but as they say, reality can sometimes be stranger than fiction. Fred Hugi looks nothing like Jim Jagger. The DA that put away their mom is not an appropriate placement choice. She was expelled and reunited with him against her parents wishes. He should have let someone else handle the case or let someone else adopt the kids. Did Anyone Watch 20/20 Last Night? - Page 3 - Blogs & Forums - QVC But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. 6. She should have had the lawyer of her choice and if they wanted to charge her with the crimes, they should have stuck with what evidence and circumstances they had. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. I will agree that it was suspicious that Diane got away with one bullet in the arm, even if the injury was severe, but she was outside the car and many scenarios are possible to that effect. May be the guy who says he did it. It was demonstrated at trial that the shooter shot the kids at close range. I mention in the blog that Dianes mental health is in question so it is obvious that her encounter with her long lost daughter was going to be difficult. Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times. Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. In fact, if someone was Hungry like the Wolf in this courtroom, it was a certain crime author who could already smell and taste the fortune coming her way after the publication of this juicy story. At least two of those school mates reported Christies tortured confession to their mother She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. What a terrible injustice. This test confirmed Diane had not held a gun. Page 40 of Case History. They said she was going slow but the time at which she arrived seems to indicate otherwise. You are wondering about the question why didn't steve downs get custody but currently there is no answer, so let kienthuctudonghoa.com summarize and list the top articles with the question. Or be mentally ill. It wasnt simply her demeanor that got her convicted. Most doctors would tell you that it is normal for our brains to block out a traumatic incident especially when combined with a serious physical injury. This case needed to be examined more thoroughly, but the mob mentality didnt allow it. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. It seems that a lot of what was written down never came up during testimony and some nurses even strayed from the original content. Great blog post, thank you. I know several foster parents and social workers. Nothing came from Diane herself. They would have welcomed them with open arms. So the hell with no gun, no GSR, no blood and no witnesses except a sick child who denied knowing who shot them until she could not anymore and happened to be adopted by the prosecutor; making it look like she could never change her mind and reveal that she has no memory of the shooting and maybe have the case reversed. Im sorry but your article is tosh. Im not saying I know for a fact in my mind shes innocentbut there is NOT enough evidence for her to be guilty. The tragedy that hit the Downs' kids changed their whole life. No worries. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. After parting ways, the couple would soon meet again in Arizona which would end up in them reigniting and reconnecting their fling. I remember when it was in the news. It was such a high profile case and she was found guilty by the media and the court so people are afraid to touch this one. 1) Gunshot residue/blood splatter. I might not have put enough information to your liking, but I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. This case certainly had its share of circumstantial evidence. Nearly every point you make here was addressed and disproved or not even allowed into evidence. It appeared rigged and the fact that Ann Rule sat in the courtroom ready to produce a Masterpiece of Guilt could only help the prosecution. If you use this mixed water, you can lift off a gunpowder stain.. This is a fascinating and informative article that has answered some questions I had, and prompted others: 1. If you had, you would clearly know that I do not claim her guilt or innocence. It is normally done (in fact in many jurisdictions, can ONLY be done) by going through the process in a different state or county then the one the applicant works with. Blood, cuts, limo driver who saw him come in, the shoe print, the blood in the car and on the socks in his bedroom. For the children to be legally free for adoption a termination of parental rights had to occur. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture: relevance? It is said that they didn't go to Steve because he wasn't a fit father or well equipped to take care of children who had gone through such a traumatic experience. You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane.. After divorcing her wife, Diane Downs, in 1980, Steve was hardly part of their life. That is the reason effective trial counsel challenges the competency of a nine-year-old child to testify in a court of law. They are set in stone and people refuse to see it any other way. and so on. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History. Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. Whether or not Mrs. Frederickson could have attacheda clinical lab to Dianes not being herself the day the Detectives pressured Diane to accompany them, the fact is Diane was clearly suffering the residual effects of that chemical poison in her system. 4.Diane was NOT arrested for almost a year after the shootings the d.a. The fact that she took the kids to the nearest hospital, andtwo of them survived kind offlies in the face of their murder at all costs theory. Agreed. Father of Diane Downs Remains Vigilant After 30 Years (VIDEO) I think that you are right about certain things not being ignored. The detective said to leave that up to the police. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. 20 Celeb Parents Who've Lost Custody Of Their Children - BabyGaga Even prosecutor Fred Hugi was seen walking the grounds to try to find the weapon. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? The interpretation of blood splatter is different than no blood splatter. ANNE RULES BOOK IS A LIE, ,ALL MADE UP CRAP. I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. It did not matter that they had no evidence; they did not like her attitude and she was going to pay for it: opinion, not fact As for Diane, give me a break. Whether it tugs at your heartstrings or angers you to the core, these stories could have happened years ago, and they still take up space in your memories. Conflicting reports say Downs also acted as a surrogate during her fourth pregnancy, giving birth to a daughter after her trial in 1984. It seems that everyone commenting just knows shes guilty, like you say. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. To Lisa Griggs Probably a 911 button. A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. He said all the police needed was for Diane to bear witness against her ex-husband. The very suspicious aspect of this ballistic saga is that Hugi said they had the bill of sale and serial number for the first Ruger and it was definitely the murder weapon. I go fishing with a jurors husband. Fairbanks jury finds Steven Downs guilty in Sophie Sergie's - KTOO They would have tried to reopen the case. What would have been the conclusion to have drawn without this hate campaign? They should have had ongoing contact and been placed with family as soon as they were out of the hospital and they never should have been interviewed without their own attorney (Guardian ad Litem) present. In fact, Knick admits Diane took that gold chain as collateral against a $500 LOAN she made to him. The ballistics, gun, speed at which she drove the car, her demeanor, etc. I dont know the woman. I dont know that it could get worse than writing an asinine comment on a restorative justice website that states that only respectful and constructive comments will be posted. Maybe I'm dramatic but I no longer want to watch it . Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. It was all about Charlene wanting KnickKnick ~wanting Dianeand Diane wanting a return to the peace she had before Knick asked his wife for a divorce. Mr. The kids were shorted-changed. it also isnt right that the rules get to keep being changed after the fact as far as how often one may apply for parole. Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. I am not saying that Diane was a saint or Ann Rule a demon. Those cases shouldnt have been in the same court let alone presided over by the same judge. Golden State Killer: Where Is the Prolific Rapist and Murderer Today? She should of been sentenced to death. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. Anyways. They were in a group home and he was getting unsupervised visitation with them. If you think you would have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico, why bother? The best policy for Diane Downs would have been to remain silent, but she fought back and smiled at the wrong time and according to them, enjoyed the attention. And this makes many people wonder about his whereabouts. The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. Movie scene alleging that Christie was scared. They never tried to reunite them with family. statement regarding the effects of the childrens medications while in hospital should acknowledge where the blogger obtained information about the side effects.). One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. Bear in mind, that arm consisted of two SHARP bones, cutting at nerves and muscle (1 of bone had been blown out of the arm when the bullet shattered it, leaving three jagged holes in the flesh, out of which bulged torn muscle, and two wedge shaped bones facing each other like dueling swords). 5. Washing soda is your best bet: It includes, among its ingredients, the exceedingly corrosive carbolic acid. Her husband turned out to be a player and a very irresponsible guy who did not really love her. (Feature Image Credit: ABC News / 20/20). she flat out says, they are saying Duran Duran made her shoot her kids!..Im like HUHOkay now this is my favorite groupstill is at 44yrs old.I had to investigate this.
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