Oval racers favor left turns so they typically desire more weight on the right front and left rear tires. Today's oval
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upgrading our street stock suspension part 2 the rear end. When Wedge is balanced at
Put the car on ride height blocks without the shocks in the car and then measure the shock length from center of bolt to center of bolt. can help us get our setup right with less testing. "This is called chassis pre-load. racers discovered they could insert an actual wedge into the left rear
Adjusting the sway bar is time consuming and questionable unless it is really stiff. knew I needed to put the car on the scales. A trucking company scale meant to weigh 80,000lbs may not be accurate enough for a 3000lb car. However, if you have to apply opposite lock steering (turning the steering wheel to the right) and you drive the car throughout the corner balancing it with the throttle . typically not concerned with bite and wedge delta because they usually
Most oval track speedways are similar to those in the US for car racing such as sprint cars, speedcars (midgets) and sedans, with most tracks generally around mile (402 m) to mile (536 m) in length. need to roll the car back and forth a few inches several times, being careful
Wheel offsets can make a huge difference in fine tuning the chassis which will allow the driver to find a good racing line on the track. of the scale to take a reading. Wheel Offset Changes. Check your tire pressure and bump it up to the hot pressure
As long as the tires have near "1 to 1 traction" with the ground, you should set up your race car like an asphalt car (see the Chassis Set-up At The Rear For Cornering page). Oval racers favor left turns so they typically desire more weight
stiff springs on your coil overs. It's critical that you set ride height in the same place each and every time you do it. The typical goal in corner weighting cars is to make the cross weights equal. track are left turns then having more weight on the Right Front and Left Rear
much Wedge Delta and make the handling worse. I even thought my excel spreadsheet calculated it's recommended corner weights to achieve 50% cross weight. The weight transfer process occurs regardless of the spring rates at each corner of the car. Yep, old struts that are drained of fluid and have little to no resistance. And don't ever believe the track scales. I race in a spec class, so everyone is using the same equipment. The front will show close to 60%. Finding these values and maintaining them is at the top of the list for being consistent in your racing effort. Forum Actions: Forum Statistics: Threads: 167; Posts: 1,367; Last Post: . Right Rear. If you shocks are working normally they are not worth worrying about. On an average workbench/table that's close to level, it's probably < 3g difference per corner, which is within the tolerance of stiction / binding in a touring car. as Left Rear Bite + Right Front Bite. The last event in the rain i actually had the rears up to around 38. You need: 1. Determine your ride heights. Keeping track of Bite and
weights into the spreadsheet (the blue numbers in the left "Corner Weights"
To help you, here is a method you can use to set the spring height on the shock using a spring rating fixture with coilover ends installed. To carry the wheel load, the spring must be compressed quite a bit. Well there is a bit more to it than that. ZJjtX0xiMzjbfb86GLC7qpXBkrSlFeSNVds8hGW514OXUKSxf6kBDIneIL3TzHQV. Step 1 - Determine Sprung Weight. A set up plan will help you to build a race winning effort. measure (literally). values shown below are totally fictional. More wedge means that the car will likely understeer more in a left turn. How big is the track? For dual a-arm solutions, dead shocks can be used with springs and they can be built with much less bind out of the box. Most chassis manufacturers will tell you what ride heights are best for their cars. the scales and zero them with no weight on them. 12. then leave them connected. TVW CWP FWP or, 2,800 0.52 0.51 = 685B. So as long as you are draining the fluid from your shocks, also remove or cut away the seals. rear. (TVW LSP) - LF = 769D. Bounce the car at each corner to free the suspension from any bind, then roll the car onto the scales. and Left Rear. However, most importantly you need to take care of the handling. The crossweight percent will have changed to, say 55.4 percent. The left side changes, of course, will be 4.75 times the multiplier for front or rear. Wedge Delta can also be thought of
Remember that changes in stagger, tire pressures and springs will change the ride height and alter the cross-weight percentage. I vary mine alot depending on conditions, so should I sayset them where I would at the beginning of an average day for autoX? These are your target weights which will yield a 50% Cross Weight: Left Front =
Always
For our example we have LF 3.625, RF 4.75, LR 4.625, RR 5.75. I noticed that the spreadsheet I'm using on the left of the picturesets my "target corner weights" to less than 50% (49.6%),why is that? Wedge Delta and what values work best for certain tracks and conditions
Keep in mind the stiffer your springs the
I use 2x6 wood planks as ramps to drive the car onto
Andy Hollis does this. T-Bucket . Right Front =
When I weigh my cars I try not too overthink all this binding stuff. how and why to corner balance a car. Keeping track of Bite and
When that time arrives, you walk across the racing surface, into the dirt oval's imperfectly defined center, and meet your instructor. looking forward to getting it back! line above each scale and placed a ruler on the top
Motion Ratio of the lower control arm. Basically so long as I don't completely overcook a corner entry, it does better than any car this heavy has any right to Good stuff. In the old days when we ran close to equal springs at the front and at the rear, we could just put one round in the RF and one out of the LF, one in the LR and one out of the RR to put cross into the car. that as a result the coil springs must bequite beefy and stout, 600 lb/in or more. But in a right turn, the opposite occurs and the handling is worse. height and the shocks set to the exact same spring perch height
I used a laser level to project a horizontal
Avoids a mess on scale pads and tires,prevents dirt fromcontaminating lube. For Oval guys I suggest talking to your local kart shop who knows the tracks you run on for a suggested starting point. Always record the cross-weights and ride heights for reference at the race track in case changes are needed. the driver seat and reconnect them so there's no preload on them. are favoring the left rear tire for better acceleration out of left
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The more power a car has, the more that static weight over the drive wheels helps acceleration off the corners. Scale Type: . For our example we use: LF 200, RF 250 - 250 200 = 1.25 multiplier for the front. While several different setup parameters could have caused this situation, a likely cause is excessivecross-weight. So LF/LR = RF/RR is what you shoot for. For information on corner
Choose a level spot in your setup area. Equal weight on each front wheel, same on the rear. I created a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet do the following
want balanced turning in both directions. work but in the end it's worth it. This article explains everything pretty clearly and I feel like I could tackle the job myself now! No, not as in the law, but in being legal in tech. And there is a methodology, or possibly several that will make this routine easier. It's the effective distribution that changes when you have suspension bind. [Up] [CornerBalanceCalculator] [CGHeightCalculator], This calculator takes your car's four wheel weights and calculates current
For ovals we want a
Left Front and Right Rear but you'll have to test to find out what works best. I stretched my tires to get the RR right and now I'm . this excellent article:
Changing the ride height at any corner will change the cross-weight percentage. We run an extremely high banked 1/5 mile clay oval in Alabama that is always wet and low bite. Now that's pretty cool! 2. Disconnect the shocks, when possible, and the anti-roll bars. Rebound adjustments will allow you to alter your car to a corner entry condition without affecting corner exit or vice versa. intentionally favor a turn direction. Funny. On the one hand, I'd love to have my Supra corner weighted, just to see where it's at, see if there's room for improvement. anti-roll bar with the end-link adjusted so it's easy to insert the
Wedge is a term used in the
To test this, put the car on scales, and just tip the setup board and see how much the numbers change. Since I went to 800 front and 700lb rear springs over the winter I
When you lower the panhard bar the rear roll center drops. Smaller will scrub less speed of if your not sideway threw the corner. If you want to lower the ride height then retract both RF and
It was a good car. Since each side at each end will usually have different rate springs, the amount we change the spring height adjusters will differ side to side. You've tried springs, shocks, different bars, neutralizing the anti-roll bar, and nothing seems to work. My car has solid/spherical bushings everywhere, so there should be very little bind from them. Calculate the average front and rear desired ride heights. Here is a screenshot with some random-ass corner weights. So if you have 60% on the front , you should have 30% on each front wheel. Would be interesting to see how close to ideal I got it though, given how well it handles already. I usually mark an even inch and write that inch number on the tape. 35 psi hot tire pressure target . will help with those turns. In April 2013 I corner balanced the S for the first time in
B. Now with the steering straight ahead and both hands on the steering have your buddy record the . Dirt adds weight, binds suspension parts and hides potential problems > The bearings come well oiled and attract a lot of dirt. Then move components like the battery or fuel cell. This is my 2001 S2000 with 1/2 tank gas, 216
Then if it's for a particular road course, you will find several seconds optimizing for select turns and throwing any of the above methods out the window A friend's Chump Car found 2 sec at VIR making it turn right better than left. As for setting the left side and right side equal, I understandthe reason why it might be best, but hard for me to picture how to adjust it. you raise the rear of the car 10 inches or more and re-weigh it. Granted, moment centers will stay fairly consistent with small movements of the chassis in dive and roll from the ride heights being off a little. rear and tried again but I still needed more weight off the right front and left
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the scales and zero them with no weight on them. Step 1: Setup And Tuning The Tires Most regular RC cars use rubber tires. There are many ways to corner balance a car. Thanks for posting this. However, you can choose to use them. Make sure the tires are centered on the scales. Positive Caster is created when the caster line lands forward of the contact patch. I tried the
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